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	<title>Comments on: Community &amp; Planning Commission united in calling for urban, pedestrian friendly Safeway development</title>
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		<title>By: lorraine - Rockridge HOA</title>
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		<dc:creator>lorraine - Rockridge HOA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel ya&#039; Frank!   I finally fulfilled a 35 yr dream to live in the east bay - PV condos at Broadway - a few yrs ago. Fairly new at the time, in Sept &#039;07, i went to a mtg Safeway set up at the, now privately owned, Monarch nursing home at Gilbert and PV. I was struck by the fact that many neighbors repeatedly said that Longs, specifically the Garden Center, was why they went to the center, and incidentally went to Safeway on their way out. The safeway rep finally went ballistic and said something like, &quot;We ARE moving to the Longs site and there will be NO garden center... PERIOD!&quot;

When i first moved here i asked people where to get plants for my tiny balcony garden. I can&#039;t count the times folks from every part of the east bay said, &quot;No need to go to Berkeley Hortic or Grand Ace, or .... You know where the Long&#039;s Super Store on PV is? They&#039;re the best!  Best prices. Great staff. They seem to magically know what we want each year and can bring in what isn&#039;t there, if we ask.&quot; Little did i know, i bought a place across the street from a beloved garden ctr, as well as being at the intersection of 3 great neighborhoods! (My condos are called &quot;Rockridge&quot;, even though we&#039;re in the Piedmont neighborhood - go figya!)

At the recent &quot;open houses&quot; conveniently set up so that there would be no &quot;public comment&quot; for us to organize around (as the last  neighbor to leave, i overheard the COO say to one of his people), again the one theme that was heard was, please don&#039;t close the garden center!  Of course at that time - this is no exaggeration - the doe-eyed young woman said in a sweet, innocent voice, head cocked to the side, &quot;But we don&#039;t have anything to do with it. That&#039;s CVS&#039; decision.&quot;

There was no mention of this at the city scoping mtg. Maybe it isn&#039;t an EIR issue. Regardless, i&#039;m going to review the list of EIR questions tonight, so that i can get my comments in to the city TOMORROW, THE LAST DAY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TO BE SUBMITTED on the EIR. Checklist for the California Environmental Quality Act: 
http://ceres.ca.gov/ceqa/guidelines/Appendix_G.html. Submit comments by email to DRanelletti@oaklandnet.com.

Frank, there&#039;s another active thread talking about this center at -  http://www.abetteroakland.com/new-broadway-safeway-eir-scoping-session-tonight/2009-07-15#comments  - You might talk it up there too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel ya&#8217; Frank!   I finally fulfilled a 35 yr dream to live in the east bay &#8211; PV condos at Broadway &#8211; a few yrs ago. Fairly new at the time, in Sept &#8216;07, i went to a mtg Safeway set up at the, now privately owned, Monarch nursing home at Gilbert and PV. I was struck by the fact that many neighbors repeatedly said that Longs, specifically the Garden Center, was why they went to the center, and incidentally went to Safeway on their way out. The safeway rep finally went ballistic and said something like, &#8220;We ARE moving to the Longs site and there will be NO garden center&#8230; PERIOD!&#8221;</p>
<p>When i first moved here i asked people where to get plants for my tiny balcony garden. I can&#8217;t count the times folks from every part of the east bay said, &#8220;No need to go to Berkeley Hortic or Grand Ace, or &#8230;. You know where the Long&#8217;s Super Store on PV is? They&#8217;re the best!  Best prices. Great staff. They seem to magically know what we want each year and can bring in what isn&#8217;t there, if we ask.&#8221; Little did i know, i bought a place across the street from a beloved garden ctr, as well as being at the intersection of 3 great neighborhoods! (My condos are called &#8220;Rockridge&#8221;, even though we&#8217;re in the Piedmont neighborhood &#8211; go figya!)</p>
<p>At the recent &#8220;open houses&#8221; conveniently set up so that there would be no &#8220;public comment&#8221; for us to organize around (as the last  neighbor to leave, i overheard the COO say to one of his people), again the one theme that was heard was, please don&#8217;t close the garden center!  Of course at that time &#8211; this is no exaggeration &#8211; the doe-eyed young woman said in a sweet, innocent voice, head cocked to the side, &#8220;But we don&#8217;t have anything to do with it. That&#8217;s CVS&#8217; decision.&#8221;</p>
<p>There was no mention of this at the city scoping mtg. Maybe it isn&#8217;t an EIR issue. Regardless, i&#8217;m going to review the list of EIR questions tonight, so that i can get my comments in to the city TOMORROW, THE LAST DAY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TO BE SUBMITTED on the EIR. Checklist for the California Environmental Quality Act:<br />
<a href="http://ceres.ca.gov/ceqa/guidelines/Appendix_G.html" rel="nofollow">http://ceres.ca.gov/ceqa/guidelines/Appendix_G.html</a>. Submit comments by email to <a href="mailto:DRanelletti@oaklandnet.com">DRanelletti@oaklandnet.com</a>.</p>
<p>Frank, there&#8217;s another active thread talking about this center at &#8211;  <a href="http://www.abetteroakland.com/new-broadway-safeway-eir-scoping-session-tonight/2009-07-15#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.abetteroakland.com/new-broadway-safeway-eir-scoping-session-tonight/2009-07-15#comments</a>  &#8211; You might talk it up there too.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Snapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Snapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We must prevent Safeway Real Estate from closing the now CVS Nursery that has been at this Pleasant Valley Road property/site for more than 30 years. There are other nurseries being forced out of business too. The problem with losing this one is that the prices are reasonable, the quality of the material is high, the WORKERS are going to lose their jobs and they are actually working for a business entity that I, as a long-time guerilla gardener heartily rely on to green my gorgeous section of Oakland, the City that I deeply LOVE!!! Please tell me where there are others here fighting this unnecessary and in our control to change death of a nursery. Thank you very much. We can not allow corporate greed, under ANY circumstances, close a single other magical thing in this City. That is a profitable nursery and I have CVS&#039; written commitment to keep that nursery open but for SAFEWAY&#039;s malfeasance [greed] in this property redux development matter. We can stop this crime. We must do so. Frank Snapp North Oakland Geurilla Gardener. Pallas89juno@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We must prevent Safeway Real Estate from closing the now CVS Nursery that has been at this Pleasant Valley Road property/site for more than 30 years. There are other nurseries being forced out of business too. The problem with losing this one is that the prices are reasonable, the quality of the material is high, the WORKERS are going to lose their jobs and they are actually working for a business entity that I, as a long-time guerilla gardener heartily rely on to green my gorgeous section of Oakland, the City that I deeply LOVE!!! Please tell me where there are others here fighting this unnecessary and in our control to change death of a nursery. Thank you very much. We can not allow corporate greed, under ANY circumstances, close a single other magical thing in this City. That is a profitable nursery and I have CVS&#8217; written commitment to keep that nursery open but for SAFEWAY&#8217;s malfeasance [greed] in this property redux development matter. We can stop this crime. We must do so. Frank Snapp North Oakland Geurilla Gardener. <a href="mailto:Pallas89juno@yahoo.com">Pallas89juno@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: david vartanoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>david vartanoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, please substitute &quot; smoking in the work area&quot; and tell me again why a soft request will work, and a ban is unnecessary.  I see single use petro based commutation as a similarly serious health issue and a socially divisive behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, please substitute &#8221; smoking in the work area&#8221; and tell me again why a soft request will work, and a ban is unnecessary.  I see single use petro based commutation as a similarly serious health issue and a socially divisive behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>david, I am not sure that anyone has a problem with encouraging employees to not drive. It&#039;s when you talk about demanding that NO employees drive that things get fuzzy. If you stay with &#039;push for&#039; and &#039;encourage&#039; things will go more smoothly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>david, I am not sure that anyone has a problem with encouraging employees to not drive. It&#8217;s when you talk about demanding that NO employees drive that things get fuzzy. If you stay with &#8216;push for&#8217; and &#8216;encourage&#8217; things will go more smoothly.</p>
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		<title>By: david vartanoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>david vartanoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the missing url forr transbay blog is
http://transbayblog.com/2009/06/30/more-pleasant-on-pleasant-valley/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the missing url forr transbay blog is<br />
<a href="http://transbayblog.com/2009/06/30/more-pleasant-on-pleasant-valley/" rel="nofollow">http://transbayblog.com/2009/06/30/more-pleasant-on-pleasant-valley/</a></p>
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		<title>By: david vartanoff</title>
		<link>http://oaklandliving.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/community-planning-commission-united-in-calling-for-urban-pedestrian-friendly-safeway-development/#comment-3390</link>
		<dc:creator>david vartanoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies,  the url for the Transbay Blog  disappeared from my post so trying again

http://transbayblog.com/2009/06/30/more-pleasant-on-pleasant-valley/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies,  the url for the Transbay Blog  disappeared from my post so trying again</p>
<p><a href="http://transbayblog.com/2009/06/30/more-pleasant-on-pleasant-valley/" rel="nofollow">http://transbayblog.com/2009/06/30/more-pleasant-on-pleasant-valley/</a></p>
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		<title>By: david vartanoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>david vartanoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, we have a plot of land which we hope will employ x and attract y customers.  So, if we can decrease the parking spaces wasted by employees, we get more space for customers, or more square feet of of rentable space.  What&#039;s not to like?  Having the city encourage or mandate fewer parking slots is really just reworking current zoning guidlines to reflect a change in attitude toward single occupancy vehicle usage. 
Why have the bus(es) cruise through?   you ask.  Currently AC is working on a major cuts/restructuring pland.  As well their is a specific attempt to improve the 51 College Ave route.  One of their ideas is to break the 51 in two at Rockridge BART.  I think doing this at the 51st center might be more useful.  Why?  Because as others have noted, and AC&#039;s documents show, the 51 has very little traffic interference south of College.  Thus it w migh well be that the net bus runs south of 51st could be faster and more efficient if not delayed by the north half.  Next item, the 12 crosstown is also up for revision.  If you agree that the alternative vision here s a better plan, you might see that having transit access improved within the center could encourage usage.  It is also possible that AC may trim the 12 such that the center could be a terminal.  In the latter case a dedicated &#039;inside&#039; point for layover/driver rest time would be useful--particularly providing toilet facilities.
erhaps, all his is just a transit advocate&#039;s dreaming.   

As to LEED, I admit to very little experience w/same--I was ttrying to indicate a desire for genuine Green building results.  This project, the Safeway at Claremont, both give Oakland opportunities to correct mistakes of prior eras--kinda like tighter cafe/lower particulate regs.   And as to solar PV/thermal within the mix, why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, we have a plot of land which we hope will employ x and attract y customers.  So, if we can decrease the parking spaces wasted by employees, we get more space for customers, or more square feet of of rentable space.  What&#8217;s not to like?  Having the city encourage or mandate fewer parking slots is really just reworking current zoning guidlines to reflect a change in attitude toward single occupancy vehicle usage.<br />
Why have the bus(es) cruise through?   you ask.  Currently AC is working on a major cuts/restructuring pland.  As well their is a specific attempt to improve the 51 College Ave route.  One of their ideas is to break the 51 in two at Rockridge BART.  I think doing this at the 51st center might be more useful.  Why?  Because as others have noted, and AC&#8217;s documents show, the 51 has very little traffic interference south of College.  Thus it w migh well be that the net bus runs south of 51st could be faster and more efficient if not delayed by the north half.  Next item, the 12 crosstown is also up for revision.  If you agree that the alternative vision here s a better plan, you might see that having transit access improved within the center could encourage usage.  It is also possible that AC may trim the 12 such that the center could be a terminal.  In the latter case a dedicated &#8216;inside&#8217; point for layover/driver rest time would be useful&#8211;particularly providing toilet facilities.<br />
erhaps, all his is just a transit advocate&#8217;s dreaming.   </p>
<p>As to LEED, I admit to very little experience w/same&#8211;I was ttrying to indicate a desire for genuine Green building results.  This project, the Safeway at Claremont, both give Oakland opportunities to correct mistakes of prior eras&#8211;kinda like tighter cafe/lower particulate regs.   And as to solar PV/thermal within the mix, why not?</p>
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		<title>By: OaklandSpaceAcademy</title>
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		<dc:creator>OaklandSpaceAcademy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me among those who think David V&#039;s &quot;requirements&quot; are mostly silly, when not downright counterproductive. Why anyone interesting in making this development green would consider LEED is beyond me. The main premise of LEED is that we can solve the environmental problems buildings create by choosing better carpet. Like most building codes, LEED is essentially anti-urban, though LEED-ND is a step in the right direction. Like most monopolies, LEED is incredibly inefficient, and inefficiencies are by definition anti-environment. Cities like Oakland need to be pushing back against LEED, not further cementing it.

The notion that we should treat employees visiting the site different from others is ridiculous. Can you imagine the amount of paperwork and enforcement that would be involved in ensuring NO employees commute car? Far better would be to decouple parking from housing to create a micro-market for parking on the site. If an employee can afford to park their car all shift, so be it.

Finally, having AC Transit troll through side streets should be a non-starter. Buses should keep to main thoroughfares - that walk from Safeway back to Broadway and/or Pleasant Valley just needs to be much nicer.

Entrances on Broadway and Pleasant Valley and housing and upper floors are good ideas though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me among those who think David V&#8217;s &#8220;requirements&#8221; are mostly silly, when not downright counterproductive. Why anyone interesting in making this development green would consider LEED is beyond me. The main premise of LEED is that we can solve the environmental problems buildings create by choosing better carpet. Like most building codes, LEED is essentially anti-urban, though LEED-ND is a step in the right direction. Like most monopolies, LEED is incredibly inefficient, and inefficiencies are by definition anti-environment. Cities like Oakland need to be pushing back against LEED, not further cementing it.</p>
<p>The notion that we should treat employees visiting the site different from others is ridiculous. Can you imagine the amount of paperwork and enforcement that would be involved in ensuring NO employees commute car? Far better would be to decouple parking from housing to create a micro-market for parking on the site. If an employee can afford to park their car all shift, so be it.</p>
<p>Finally, having AC Transit troll through side streets should be a non-starter. Buses should keep to main thoroughfares &#8211; that walk from Safeway back to Broadway and/or Pleasant Valley just needs to be much nicer.</p>
<p>Entrances on Broadway and Pleasant Valley and housing and upper floors are good ideas though.</p>
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		<title>By: James F</title>
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		<dc:creator>James F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, feel the &quot;requirements&quot; posturing as counter productive here. 

Putting forth the perception that the community is unwilling to comprimise and/or work with the applicant to reach a middle ground which benefits both sides is a great way to kill a project, or at the very least lessen their willingness to engage and work with the community.

Establishing a clear dialogue and fostering an understanding of  wants, needs and limitations on both sides will make the process more efficient and beneficial for all involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, feel the &#8220;requirements&#8221; posturing as counter productive here. </p>
<p>Putting forth the perception that the community is unwilling to comprimise and/or work with the applicant to reach a middle ground which benefits both sides is a great way to kill a project, or at the very least lessen their willingness to engage and work with the community.</p>
<p>Establishing a clear dialogue and fostering an understanding of  wants, needs and limitations on both sides will make the process more efficient and beneficial for all involved.</p>
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		<title>By: david vartanoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>david vartanoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3.  So in the next ac transit  cuts plan, some change is likely to the 12 which if it lost two minutes getting through the shopping center in trade for a stop in front of the current safeway while it remains open would make the store more transit useful.I believe I suggested in a different thread on this topic that changing the route to access children&#039;s hospital as a direct crosstown seemed moe useful than the short run on 55th.  Further, in ac&#039;s plans they are contemplating breaking the 51 in two at the rockridge bart.  If instead, as another poster suggested, they created a limited or express 51st would be a logical endpoint because express and college avenue aren&#039;t congruent.

As to leed, solar, and transit passes/no auto commuting,  well, yes city regulations are demands.  Kinda like no left turn signs, no smoking, etc.  We as citizens do empower our city to regulate some behaviors.  To me insisting on greener buildings flows directly from the recently enacted state law calling for ghg reduction.   And, looking back at other efforts to change societal behaviors, if now is not yet the right time to push for these goals, when will it be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3.  So in the next ac transit  cuts plan, some change is likely to the 12 which if it lost two minutes getting through the shopping center in trade for a stop in front of the current safeway while it remains open would make the store more transit useful.I believe I suggested in a different thread on this topic that changing the route to access children&#8217;s hospital as a direct crosstown seemed moe useful than the short run on 55th.  Further, in ac&#8217;s plans they are contemplating breaking the 51 in two at the rockridge bart.  If instead, as another poster suggested, they created a limited or express 51st would be a logical endpoint because express and college avenue aren&#8217;t congruent.</p>
<p>As to leed, solar, and transit passes/no auto commuting,  well, yes city regulations are demands.  Kinda like no left turn signs, no smoking, etc.  We as citizens do empower our city to regulate some behaviors.  To me insisting on greener buildings flows directly from the recently enacted state law calling for ghg reduction.   And, looking back at other efforts to change societal behaviors, if now is not yet the right time to push for these goals, when will it be?</p>
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		<title>By: Max Allstadt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Allstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>especially with &quot;NO&quot; in all caps.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am inclined to feel pretty sorry for Safeway, particularly in the context of the Colege Ave discussions. On College neighbors complaigned that the plan was too big, it was out of scale for the neighborhood, and they didn&#039;t think anything needed to change, just spruce up the building. So on Rockridge Safeway presents a plan that doesn&#039;t change much, is not a lot bigger, is very much in scale with the buildings on the other sides of both PV and B&#039;way, is compatibile witht he auto-centric nature of much of their market in Upper Rockridge, Piedmont and Lakeshore/Crocker Highlands, and they get blindsided by the neighborhood activists, some of whom were the same folks who were complaigning about the College store. And the tone, at least in the blogs, has been very dismissive of Safewya&#039;s attempt. I could understand if they think that Oakland is totally schizo. I would be very sympathetic if they feel somewhat abused.

As you noted, they complied with the zoning code and with the general plan, and some of the changes demanded by the city and the neighbors will require variances from the existing zoning, such as the 4 of 5 story buildings suggested. (C-30 has a 45 foot height limit I think.) There are also seem to be setback requirments for the PV frontage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am inclined to feel pretty sorry for Safeway, particularly in the context of the Colege Ave discussions. On College neighbors complaigned that the plan was too big, it was out of scale for the neighborhood, and they didn&#8217;t think anything needed to change, just spruce up the building. So on Rockridge Safeway presents a plan that doesn&#8217;t change much, is not a lot bigger, is very much in scale with the buildings on the other sides of both PV and B&#8217;way, is compatibile witht he auto-centric nature of much of their market in Upper Rockridge, Piedmont and Lakeshore/Crocker Highlands, and they get blindsided by the neighborhood activists, some of whom were the same folks who were complaigning about the College store. And the tone, at least in the blogs, has been very dismissive of Safewya&#8217;s attempt. I could understand if they think that Oakland is totally schizo. I would be very sympathetic if they feel somewhat abused.</p>
<p>As you noted, they complied with the zoning code and with the general plan, and some of the changes demanded by the city and the neighbors will require variances from the existing zoning, such as the 4 of 5 story buildings suggested. (C-30 has a 45 foot height limit I think.) There are also seem to be setback requirments for the PV frontage.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3 seems unlikely, although if you can find successful small retail owners that would consider that to be desirable space I would reconsider.  With little pedestrian traffic on the street, most retail would prefer to face inwards where bulk of the mall customers are. Once the other side of broadway is more inviting, facing the street on that side would be more feasible. 

#3 I dont&#039; care, but I am not sure how making everyone travelling on the bus spend another few minutes driving through a mall is a good thing for ACTransit riders overall.

#2 I too would like to see charging stations, but there aren&#039;t any standards yet.

And david, &quot;requirements&quot; is such an unfreindly term. It sounds too much like &quot;demands&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3 seems unlikely, although if you can find successful small retail owners that would consider that to be desirable space I would reconsider.  With little pedestrian traffic on the street, most retail would prefer to face inwards where bulk of the mall customers are. Once the other side of broadway is more inviting, facing the street on that side would be more feasible. </p>
<p>#3 I dont&#8217; care, but I am not sure how making everyone travelling on the bus spend another few minutes driving through a mall is a good thing for ACTransit riders overall.</p>
<p>#2 I too would like to see charging stations, but there aren&#8217;t any standards yet.</p>
<p>And david, &#8220;requirements&#8221; is such an unfreindly term. It sounds too much like &#8220;demands&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Becks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough. Maybe the phrase was a bit gratuitous - I was just trying to show that the Pleasant Valley Safeway project hasn&#039;t suddenly brought RCPC, STAND, and ULTRA together on other projects.

However, I don&#039;t think grouping people together who oppose the College Safeway remodel is a generalization in and of itself. I never said they all think exactly the same way about everything, but I do think they think differently about city planning than I do. And I know some of these people say they don&#039;t oppose a remodel of the College Safeway, but realistically, they oppose any remodel that would be financially viable for Safeway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough. Maybe the phrase was a bit gratuitous &#8211; I was just trying to show that the Pleasant Valley Safeway project hasn&#8217;t suddenly brought RCPC, STAND, and ULTRA together on other projects.</p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t think grouping people together who oppose the College Safeway remodel is a generalization in and of itself. I never said they all think exactly the same way about everything, but I do think they think differently about city planning than I do. And I know some of these people say they don&#8217;t oppose a remodel of the College Safeway, but realistically, they oppose any remodel that would be financially viable for Safeway.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Allstadt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Allstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1 and #2 = so not happening.  LEED certification, maybe.  Silver? If we&#039;re lucky.  A Platinum certified mall? Very very unlikely.

Standalone power? Nopw.

3-5 are totally achievable.  Though I don&#039;t think you need to actually bring busses into the lot in order to make the most of transit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1 and #2 = so not happening.  LEED certification, maybe.  Silver? If we&#8217;re lucky.  A Platinum certified mall? Very very unlikely.</p>
<p>Standalone power? Nopw.</p>
<p>3-5 are totally achievable.  Though I don&#8217;t think you need to actually bring busses into the lot in order to make the most of transit.</p>
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